As India Overtakes China in Population, Will Its Stock Market, Too?
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As India Overtakes China in Population, Will Its Stock Market, Too?

The key, say some economists, is to look at the ratio of those who are middle age to those who are older

By MARK HULBERT
Mon, May 8, 2023 7:27amGrey Clock 3 min

Is India’s stock market a better long-term bet than China’s?

Some economists think so, now that India is on track to become the world’s most populous nation. Demography, they believe, is destiny.

While China’s population has long been the largest in the world, the two countries are now neck and neck, at roughly 1.4 billion people each, according to the United Nations. India will be No. 1 sometime this year, if it isn’t there already. And by the year 2100, India’s population is projected to be 1.5 billion, while China’s is projected to be 800 million.

A larger population doesn’t automatically translate into a stronger economy or a better-performing stock market, says Alejandra Grindal, chief economist at Ned Davis Research. The more important variable when projecting economic growth is the size of the working-age population. When it comes to the stock market’s long-term prospects, furthermore, it is the size of “the maturing age population that is important,” she says.

The MO ratio

The indicator that perhaps best captures the relative size of these two groups is the so-called MO ratio, says John Geanakoplos, an economics professor at Yale University. The numerator of this ratio—“M,” for middle-aged—is the number of those ages 40 to 49, while the denominator—“O,” for old—contains those from ages 60 to 69. Prof. Geanakoplos is the co-author of an academic paper, published in 2002, documenting that demographic variables such as the MO ratio historically have been significantly correlated with the stock market.

Prof. Geanakoplos says the correlation stems from the fact that the MO ratio is a good proxy for how many people in a country are saving and investing for retirement relative to how many are withdrawing money from the stock market to pay for their retirement. When the ratio is high, there are more savers and investors relative to spenders, which means that capital will be relatively plentiful and interest rates will be lower than they would otherwise be. That in turn means that the discounted value of companies’ future earnings and dividends will be higher. When the ratio is low, in contrast, interest rates will tend to be higher and the present value of future earnings and dividends will be lower.

Prof. Geanakoplos adds that the absolute level of the MO ratio is less important for the stock market’s prospects than its trend. That poses a special challenge to China’s stock market over the longer term, since the country’s MO ratio is projected to decline precipitously over the next several decades—from its current 1.32 to 0.73 in 2050, according to data from Ned Davis Research. This means there will be nearly a doubling in the number of retirees in China pulling money out of the economy and the stock market between now and 2050, relative to the number who are saving and investing.

“Insofar as demography is destiny” Prof. Geanakoplos says, “the long-term prospects for the Chinese stock market are relatively poor.”

India’s MO ratio, in contrast, is projected to decline at a more moderate pace over the next three decades compared with China’s, from its current 1.98 to 1.34. That means that, though demographic factors will be headwinds to both countries’ stock markets in coming decades, not tailwinds, those headwinds will be stronger in China than in India.

Other factors

Ms. Grindal says that while the impact of population trends shouldn’t be minimised, there are many other factors—both political and economic—that will influence the two countries’ economics and stock markets in coming decades.

To put into perspective the demographic headwinds that China and India will be facing, consider the U.S.’s MO ratio. According to Ned Davis Research data, the ratio is projected to rise from its current 1.01 to 1.31 by the end of the 2030s, before declining to 1.15 by 2050. This increase will come as a surprise to many, given recent media attention to Social Security’s financing shortfall. But, Ms. Grindal points out, the millennial generation “is about the same size, if not slightly larger, than the baby boom population,” and is about to enter the 40-49 age cohort. That’s largely what will cause the U.S. MO ratio to rise. Relative to China and India, in other words, the U.S. MO appears quite favourable.



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When will Berkshire Hathaway stop selling Bank of America stock?

By ANDREW BARY
Sat, Sep 7, 2024 3 min

Berkshire began liquidating its big stake in the banking company in mid-July—and has already unloaded about 15% of its interest. The selling has been fairly aggressive and has totaled about $6 billion. (Berkshire still holds 883 million shares, an 11.3% interest worth $35 billion based on its most recent filing on Aug. 30.)

The selling has prompted speculation about when CEO Warren Buffett, who oversees Berkshire’s $300 billion equity portfolio, will stop. The sales have depressed Bank of America stock, which has underperformed peers since Berkshire began its sell program. The stock closed down 0.9% Thursday at $40.14.

It’s possible that Berkshire will stop selling when the stake drops to 700 million shares. Taxes and history would be the reasons why.

Berkshire accumulated its Bank of America stake in two stages—and at vastly different prices. Berkshire’s initial stake came in 2017 , when it swapped $5 billion of Bank of America preferred stock for 700 million shares of common stock via warrants it received as part of the original preferred investment in 2011.

Berkshire got a sweet deal in that 2011 transaction. At the time, Bank of America was looking for a Buffett imprimatur—and the bank’s stock price was weak and under $10 a share.

Berkshire paid about $7 a share for that initial stake of 700 million common shares. The rest of the Berkshire stake, more than 300 million shares, was mostly purchased in 2018 at around $30 a share.

With Bank of America stock currently trading around $40, Berkshire faces a high tax burden from selling shares from the original stake of 700 million shares, given the low cost basis, and a much lighter tax hit from unloading the rest. Berkshire is subject to corporate taxes—an estimated 25% including local taxes—on gains on any sales of stock. The tax bite is stark.

Berkshire might own $2 to $3 a share in taxes on sales of high-cost stock and $8 a share on low-cost stock purchased for $7 a share.

New York tax expert Robert Willens says corporations, like individuals, can specify the particular lots when they sell stock with multiple cost levels.

“If stock is held in the custody of a broker, an adequate identification is made if the taxpayer specifies to the broker having custody of the stock the particular stock to be sold and, within a reasonable time thereafter, confirmation of such specification is set forth in a written document from the broker,” Willens told Barron’s in an email.

He assumes that Berkshire will identify the high-cost Bank of America stock for the recent sales to minimize its tax liability.

If sellers don’t specify, they generally are subject to “first in, first out,” or FIFO, accounting, meaning that the stock bought first would be subject to any tax on gains.

Buffett tends to be tax-averse—and that may prompt him to keep the original stake of 700 million shares. He could also mull any loyalty he may feel toward Bank of America CEO Brian Moynihan , whom Buffett has praised in the past.

Another reason for Berkshire to hold Bank of America is that it’s the company’s only big equity holding among traditional banks after selling shares of U.S. Bancorp , Bank of New York Mellon , JPMorgan Chase , and Wells Fargo in recent years.

Buffett, however, often eliminates stock holdings after he begins selling them down, as he did with the other bank stocks. Berkshire does retain a smaller stake of about $3 billion in Citigroup.

There could be a new filing on sales of Bank of America stock by Berkshire on Thursday evening. It has been three business days since the last one.

Berkshire must file within two business days of any sales of Bank of America stock since it owns more than 10%. The conglomerate will need to get its stake under about 777 million shares, about 100 million below the current level, before it can avoid the two-day filing rule.

It should be said that taxes haven’t deterred Buffett from selling over half of Berkshire’s stake in Apple this year—an estimated $85 billion or more of stock. Barron’s has estimated that Berkshire may owe $15 billion on the bulk of the sales that occurred in the second quarter.

Berkshire now holds 400 million shares of Apple and Barron’s has argued that Buffett may be finished reducing the Apple stake at that round number, which is the same number of shares that Berkshire has held in Coca-Cola for more than two decades.

Buffett may like round numbers—and 700 million could be just the right figure for Bank of America.

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