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The Luxury Tower Built for New York’s Elite Still Sits Half Empty

Related Companies has struggled to unload its most expensive units at 35 Hudson Yards. Now the developer is offering deep discounts.

By KATHERINE CLARKE
Fri, Jul 14, 2023 9:32amGrey Clock 8 min

When the Related Companies set out to build Hudson Yards, a roughly 28-acre mega-project on Manhattan’s far west side, its goal was lofty: The developer wanted to turn a windswept railyard into the next hot destination for the global elite. That meant building and marketing a brand new neighbourhood with office towers, luxury stores, restaurants and high-end amenities.

The project’s condominium towers—15 and 35 Hudson Yards—were designed to lure moneyed buyers further west than ever before, and set a new benchmark for pricing outside of traditional high-end enclaves, with executives at Related promoting the neighbourhood as “the new Park Avenue.”

Now, roughly a decade after Related broke ground on Hudson Yards, it has struggled to make that vision a reality. At the luxury glass-and-limestone tower 35 Hudson Yards, approximately 50% of the units were still unsold as of the last week of June, more than four years after sales launched, according to an analysis by The Wall Street Journal based on sales recorded with the city’s Department of Finance. Related is slashing prices and offering incentives at the condominium, such as covering buyers’ taxes and closing costs, local agents said.

Recorded sales at 35 Hudson as of late June had closed for an average of 30% less than the original prices filed with the New York state Attorney General’s office, and active listings were discounted by up to 50%, the analysis shows. At least four large units at the building have sold for more than 40% off, records show. A four-bedroom apartment recently traded for $8.5 million, about 46% less than its projected asking price of $15.725 million, records show.

Related’s Sherry Tobak, who heads sales for the two condominiums alongside new development marketing firm Corcoran Sunshine, said the developer had been forced to reassess its expectations at 35 Hudson Yards.

“When we first opened the job, we thought we’d be able to get a higher price,” she said. “The message [from the market] was that we were overreaching a little bit.”

While many developers across the city are cutting prices amid higher interest rates, the discounts being offered at 35 Hudson Yards are bigger than developer concessions in other areas of Manhattan, according to appraiser Jonathan Miller of Miller Samuel.

“The actual housing market is not seeing anywhere near that kind of discount,” Miller said. Related disputed that characterisation, saying the building is performing in line with “its competitive set.”

Priced slightly lower than 35 Hudson, 15 Hudson Yards originally fared better, and is about 90% sold after almost seven years of marketing. Still, some 15 Hudson homeowners are listing their units for less than they paid as they look to resell in a shifting market.

In all, Related still has more than a billion dollars worth of condos left to sell at Hudson Yards, based on the initial pricing, the Journal analysis shows.

The Hudson Yards condos were always going to be a tough sell for Related, which secured the rights to develop the massive railyard site through a roughly $1 billion lease deal with the Metropolitan Transportation Authority in 2010. The far-west location—between 10th Avenue and the West Side Highway—was untested for luxury housing, and required creating an entirely new neighbourhood out of whole cloth. Retail at Hudson Yards now includes high-end stores such as Cartier, Coach and Dior and restaurants including chef José Andrés’ Mercado Little Spain. The project’s more than 10 million square feet of office space is home to tenants such as L’Oréal and Facebook parent company Meta.

To help sell the new neighbourhood it created, Related promised safety—the developer works with a private security firm to police Hudson Yards.

The reception to the new Hudson Yards neighbourhood has been mixed. While some flock there for the shopping, restaurants and tourist destinations like the Edge observatory, others have described the glass skyscrapers as soulless, with little authentic personality.

“It’s a very dramatic area that’s sprung out of nothing,” said Manhattan real-estate agent Donna Olshan. “It’s high-rise buildings, commercial real estate and a mall. It has less of a residential feeling.”

A number of suicides at the Vessel, a tourist attraction that sits at the centre of Hudson Yards, have generated negative press coverage and resulted in the closure of the walkable sculpture. A spokeswoman for Related said the company is evaluating solutions that would allow it to reopen the Vessel.

The first Hudson Yards condo tower, 15 Hudson Yards, was designed to have a downtown feel, said Tobak. Designed by Diller Scofidio + Renfro and Rockwell Group, the 88-story, 285-unit building resembles four interconnecting arcs of glass. The property has about 40,000 square feet of amenities, including a fitness centre, a pool and an open-air terrace wrapped in a 60-foot glass screen wall. Sales launched at the project in September 2016. Initial pricing filed with the attorney general’s office started at $1.92 million for a one-bedroom unit and rose to $32 million for a four-bedroom penthouse.

By contrast, 35 Hudson Yards was designed for a more uptown audience, and is “a little more classic,” Tobak said. Indeed, Related’s own founder and chairman, Stephen Ross, relocated there from another of the company’s projects, the former Time Warner Center at Columbus Circle. Designed by Skidmore Owings & Merrill, 35 Hudson Yards is 92 stories with 143 units. The building has interiors by Tony Ingrao, who also designed Ross’s Time Warner Center penthouse, and comes with amenities such as a private gym and access to the offerings of the Equinox Hotel, which is also in the building. Initial pricing filed with the attorney general started at $5 million for a two-bedroom unit and rose to $59 million apiece for a pair of penthouses.

When 15 Hudson Yards launched sales, it benefited from an upswing in the New York condo market. By the end of the first year of sales, Related had signed contracts for more than $500 million worth of apartments, nearly a third of its projected sellout for the whole tower, property records show. Foreign buyers, particularly from Asia, were a strong component of the buyer pool, thanks to marketing and trade shows Related did there, Tobak said. A large number of those buyers have since rented their units out, according to StreetEasy.

Today, about 30 units remain unsold, recorded sales show, with the building’s higher-priced apartments making up the majority of the leftover inventory. Tobak noted that that number is closer to 25 if signed contracts are factored in.

Sales at 15 Hudson Yards launched in 2016.

Some buyers who purchased early on are now struggling to unload their units in the current market. Ann Cutbill Lenane, a Douglas Elliman real-estate agent who has sold multiple units at Hudson Yards, signed a contract in 2017 to buy a $4.84 million condo for herself at 15 Hudson Yards. Now, with her children out of the house and a need to downsize, she has accepted that she’s unlikely to find a buyer willing to match that price on a resale. She has the unit listed for $4.495 million and said she expects to sell for a loss, especially since Related is currently listing units at a discount, undercutting the price she paid.

She said she feels embarrassed to be a real-estate agent losing money on a piece of property. Still, “I can’t beat myself up,” she said. “You always take a risk when you step into a new product. That’s just the nature of the beast.”

Tobak said that buyers who purchased at the height of the market at 15 Hudson Yards are now facing inevitable market realities, but recommended that they try to wait out the current cycle. “If you hold on for a little while, you’re going to make money,” she said.

When 35 Hudson Yards launched sales in March 2019, it debuted at a higher price point than 15 Hudson in a much less favourable market. “By the time 35 came up, the bloom was off the rose,” said Olshan.

Related signed contracts on about 15 of the 143 units at 35 Hudson in the first year, records show. Then, its efforts were further hampered by the pandemic, which temporarily shut down sales offices across the city. To generate activity, Related temporarily rented units at the building with an option to buy, Tobak said.

Still, Related has struggled to build the momentum needed to meet sales targets at 35 Hudson. Agents said one factor is Related’s proposal to bring a casino to Hudson Yards, which potential buyers worry could draw large crowds and make the area feel tacky. “I’m sure whatever gets built is going to be very tasteful,” said Dan Gotlieb of Digs Realty Group, who has done business at 35 Hudson. “But it’s just an uncertainty right now that’s probably also contributing to the sluggish sales.”

In response to criticism of the casino plan, Related said in a statement: “If we are fortunate enough to be one of the successful bidders for a gaming license, we will deliver a world-class resort with amenities, restaurants, retail and entertainment that will even further elevate the offerings at Hudson Yards and make the experience for the neighbourhood, residents and office tenants even greater than it is today.”

Of the 35 Hudson units currently listed on StreetEasy, many are asking significantly less than the initial pricing. A five-bedroom, roughly 4,600-square-foot unit is asking $13.85 million, 49% less than its original $27 million offering-plan price, records show. A four-bedroom, roughly 3,800-square-foot unit is asking $9.995 million, 43% less than its original projected price.

Olshan likened 35 Hudson to “a big Broadway show that just never took off.”

Real-estate agents with recent deals at 35 Hudson said they have been pleasantly surprised by Related’s level of negotiability. Alex Carini of the Carini Group said his firm recently helped a Brazilian family purchase a $9.95 million condo at the tower, a 37.5% discount from the offering-plan pricing. Related also covered the client’s closing costs, he said. In this market, he said, sellers often give a discount or cover closing costs, but rarely both.

Gotlieb said his clients, onetime renters at 15 Hudson, sat on the sidelines for years as they waited for prices to fall at 35 Hudson. “They wanted a certain kind of product and they weren’t willing to pay $10 million for it,” he said. Ultimately, they secured a four-bedroom, roughly 3,400-square-foot unit for $8.5 million, nearly 46% off the offering plan price, records show.

Retired corporate attorney Grace Kim, 50, said she felt she had “room to negotiate” when she purchased a three-bedroom apartment for her family at 35 Hudson last year.

“Mortgage rates were so high,” Kim said. “Everyone was kind of afraid to jump into the buyer’s market.”

Kim declined to comment on what she paid, but a Related spokesperson said that her unit type typically ranges in price from $6 million to $7.5 million. It is not clear what the apartment was originally priced at.

Kim said she feels comfortable with the investment, given that she plans on living there long term. “I feel like the market is going to come back eventually,” she said.

In the luxury segment of the Manhattan market—the top 10% of deals—the number of closed sales fell 39.6% in the second quarter from the same period of last year, according to a recent report prepared by Miller for Douglas Elliman. The median sales price held relatively steady, ticking up by 3.9% to $6.7 million, during that same period.

Tobak remains optimistic. She said she sees foot traffic picking up at 35 Hudson and has sent contracts out on multiple units in the past few weeks. Factoring in contracts signed, the building is closer to 60% sold, she said. Still, the developer has “less wiggle room than before” in terms of profitability.

“We’re at a decent point,” she said. “Are we making a ton of money? I don’t know.”



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OpenAI says it is scrapping the release of its next-generation AI model over safety concerns that researchers raised during internal testing, in one of the clearest signs so far that agent misbehavior could stymie the industry’s rapid progression.

The move follows a summer punctuated by reports of artificial-intelligence systems industrywide going rogue, and marks a rare case of a major AI developer ditching a new release because of safety concerns.

The company had planned to launch the model, known as GPT-6.1 Astra, in the coming days or weeks, aiming for an October debut. The model was more capable than the company’s previous models in completing challenging tasks from end-to-end without human assistance, as well as writing.

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Saachi Jain, OpenAI’s head of safety systems, said in an interview that GPT-6.1 Astra regressed in two areas. Compared with its predecessor, GPT-6 Astra, the model performed poorly on tests measuring alignment, or how well the model adheres to what humans would like it to do. Specifically, GPT-6.1 Astra showed higher levels of deception: It wasn’t always honest about telling users of the actions it did or didn’t take.

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While GPT-6.1 Astra improved in areas such as “model laziness,” Jain said it didn’t quite meet OpenAI’s bar for safety and alignment, so the company decided not to launch the model publicly.

The announcement comes one day ahead of OpenAI’s annual developer conference in San Francisco. In the past, OpenAI has used the conference as an opportunity to launch new models and services that reduce costs for software developers—a segment the ChatGPT-maker competes with rival AI company Anthropic to win over.

In recent weeks, OpenAI and Anthropic have called on industry partners to slow down the development of cutting-edge AI models and invest in safety standards, noting they will temper the pace of their own internal AI progress.

OpenAI says it is working to investigate a range of agent security incidents that it has discovered in recent months, and address the safety issues underneath them. As part of the work, the company has implemented a new monitoring system to catch AI-agent misbehavior more quickly, and started requiring engineers to use stronger security guardrails for testing its AI systems.

Earlier this summer hundreds of OpenAI’s internal agents, which were tasked with completing a cybersecurity test, ended up hacking into the AI company Hugging Face. Since then, high-profile organizations such as the Australian government and United Nations discovered that OpenAI’s agents used similar, but less extensive, techniques to gain access to their websites.

Many of the publicly known agent-security incidents involved OpenAI’s internal AI models that were never slated for public release.

Last week, OpenAI said it paused training on its most capable AI models after an AI agent slipped through a gap in the company’s internet restrictions to query a public chatbot. The company said its new monitoring systems flagged the incident within 15 minutes, and training on these models remains paused.

GPT-6.1 Astra isn’t one of those models, but a different case, the company said.

“We want to make sure our model development is safe no matter whether that’s in the company, or when we ship it to users,” Jain said. “But when we ship it to users, we have an extremely high bar in terms of safety and alignment.”

While the company decided not to ship GPT-6.1 Astra, it hopes to use the same base model to do additional reinforcement learning runs, and create future generations of its GPT-6 models.

OpenAI plans to conduct several deep dives to identify the root cause of the problems identified in GPT-6.1 Astra, Jain said. The work includes ensuring that OpenAI’s reinforcement learning environments are rewarding the right type of behavior, Jain added, though she noted the company would investigate all stages of model development.

AI companies have begun to draw scrutiny from policymakers and public officials, who are paying attention to the rapid development of the technology. Later this week, a Senate subcommittee is holding a hearing with third party AI researchers titled, “Rogue AI: Securing the Homeland Against AI Agent Attacks.”

Florida Attorney General James Uthmeier, a Republican, sued OpenAI in June, claiming that the company and Chief Executive Sam Altman knowingly released an unsafe product and ignored warnings that it could harm users.

In a motion for temporary injunction filed Monday, Uthmeier sought to prevent OpenAI from developing new AI models without third-party approved safeguards, stop ChatGPT from soliciting user engagement and limit the company’s ability to advertise ChatGPT as safe.

Tech companies claim they “cannot stop barreling forward with their potentially civilization-ending endeavors unless they are forced to do so by the government,” Uthmeier said in the filing. “The Florida Attorney General is answering your cry for help.”

An OpenAI spokeswoman said that people want to know AI is being developed safely, “and that starts with what companies like ours do ourselves.”

“Governments have an important role to play in setting robust safety standards for AI, and we’re committed to working with Florida and other states on advancing pragmatic AI policies that apply to the entire AI industry—not just one company,” she said.

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